During that time I was a 90’s shooter on a good day. These irons along with some practice really helped me grow my game and I finally broke the coveted 80 mark. Then 80 became my standard I was trying to break evertime out and I had at least 10 more rounds under 80 when I decided my game had outgrown these irons “yeah right”.I Decided to buy more of a players club. BAD move, my game literally fell apart over night. I sold my 800.00 set of new irons on ebay and went back to the x-16’s and although I’m not breaking 80 again I’m definitly hitting the ball better and will be playing these irons for a long long time. People say oh it’s hard to work the ball or hit finese shots chip and pitch with thick top line game improvment irons. I say BULL. My strenght is my short game. X-16’s are awesome.