The purpose of this guide to assist riders in making a determination as to whether a treeless saddle would benefit them or their horses.
The following is based on my personal experience with the BOB MARSHALL SPORT SADDLE. I have not had any experience with other saddles, and therefore cannot attest to their quality or lack thereof. Also, all of my experiences are based on arena and trail use.
1. Exactly what are those weird things?!
Bob Marshall Treeless Sport Saddles (hereafter referred to as BMSS) are exactly what they imply: saddles constructed without the use of a saddle tree.
2. Is this a new concept?
No, it’s not. Modern treeless saddles have been around for many years, and the concept is gaining in popularity as more and more riders are discovering the comfort these saddles afford both themselves and their mounts.
3. What styles do they come in?
BMSS are available in trail, endurance and barrel racing models. Also on the market now are various english/dressage type treeless saddles and even a hybrid english/endurance/trail version. They are called “Sensation” saddles and I belive they are made by a company called “Nickers.” Note: These saddles have some specific requirements that both horse and rider must meet, so please discuss these carefully with a dealer when ordering. They include weight restrictions on riders, and body specifications on horses. They recommend a weight limit of no more than 200 lb for the rider and claim they are best suited although certainly not limited to broad backed, flat withered horses like Friesians, Missouri Foxtrotters, etc. You can learn about them by typing the name Sensation Saddle into any search engine. I have never tried one, so I can’t really say if I care for them or not. Anyone having any experience with them is welcome to email me and let me know how they like them.
4. Is an Orignial Bob Marshall Sport Saddle the same as a “Bob Marshall Circle Y” saddle?
No. When I had my first BMSS made, I had to speak with the factory about some specifics, and I could not resist asking what the differences are. I was told that the Circle Y brand of sport saddle is not nearly as well constructed as an original BMSS. The story I got was this: When Bob Marshall first started out in the saddle business, he needed investors, and Circle Y agreed to help him. In exchange for this help, Bob Marshall allowed Circle Y to re-produce a certain number of his saddles each year. Therefore, Circle Y saddles are not, nor have ever been produced in the Bob Marshall factory. Now, I cannot attest to the truth of the statements the factory manager made, but it does all make sense. I have carefully examined the Circle Y “spin-offs” as I call them, and they do not appear to be the same. However, I also can’t attest to their quality because I have not ridden one nor do I plan to, as I am happy with my orignial BMSS saddles. So, that’s the story as it was told to me!
5. Will the BMSS fit my horse?
These saddles will fit a variety of differently sized and shaped horses. I have used mine on many different horses, and never had a problem with any of them. Note: Although the BMSS will fit many average horses, some with very high withers or other concerns may need a customized saddle. Again, discuss these issues with your dealer or the person selling the saddle to make sure you will get a saddle that fits your horse if he has an unusual body shape.
6. How does it feel to ride in a treeless saddle?
For those of you who have ridden bareback and like it, the feeling will be very similar. You will be able to feel your horse move under you and communicate very effectively with him. If you have never ridden bareback and have always had a tree between you and the horse, then the sensation of riding in a BMSS may feel odd to you initially. At first, you may feel like you are a bit unbalanced because you are sitting MUCH lower on his back than you are used to and moving WITH his body instead of being a stationary object perched on top of him. However, your lower center of gravity will afford you a higher degree of safety and security in the saddle, and after a few weeks, you may never want to go back to a “hard” saddle again!
7. Can I use just any saddle pad with my BMSS?
No! Because there is no tree to spread out the pressure of your weight on the horse’s back, you should use a good quality open-celled foam “equalizer” pad. These pads help spread and equalize the weight of the rider over a large portion of the horse’s back, thus greatly reducing pressure areas. They also help keep pressure off the spine. The only brand I have used is the SKITO pad, but there are others out on the market if you want to shop around. Whatever you choose, make sure it is designed to be used with treeless saddles or your horse may suffer back problems.
8. What size seat do I need?
Because the BMSS has no tree, they tend to “cup” up a bit when the rider is mounted. For western models, I suggest that you purchase a saddle at least 1 to 1 1/2 sizes bigger than your usual size, depending on how snug you like your saddles. For the english model, consult a dealer or the seller of the saddle for sizing information.
9. Can heavier riders use a BMSS.
Yes! I am a plus sized rider with a sturdy, short backed horse and she carries me fine in my BMSS. Again, be CERTAIN to obtain a quality open-celled foam pad for your saddle to disperse your weight, and you can even consider having extra shims along the spine area if you are a heavy person. NOTE: MOST IMPORTANTLY OF ALL: Make sure you are riding a healthy, fit horse that is built to carry a rider of your particular size or weight. If in doubt, consult your vet or trainer.
10. Will my horse like a BMSS?
Not one single horse that I have ever used my saddles on has seemed to dislike the saddle. I currently have 3 saddle horses but have used BMSS saddles on several other horses I have owned in the past with great results. My own saddle has been on our 2 Missouri Foxtrotter mares, our 16 H lean Quarter/Appie, a 14 H Arab/Welch mix, a 15 H paint, a 15 H arab, and a 15.1 H quarter. A friend also tried it on her horse, who has withers like a Wildebeast. He was the only horse that needed a peaked pommel to accomodate his withers, but it fit perfectly on all the other horses of different sizes and shapes.
Most horses will move out better and happier without the pinching, bridging or rubbing that some traditional saddles with trees may cause. Like all saddles, the BMSS may not suit every single horse, but the majority of horses seem to appreciate them as much as the rider.
11. Do these saddles slip when I mount or dismount?
They can. If you are a person that lingers in the stirrup when mounting, or puts a lot of weight into the stirrups when riding, the saddle may shift a bit. It is always kinder to the horse and your own body to use a mounting block when possible, but a fit rider with proper mounting skills will have no trouble mounting without one and the saddle will stay in place fine. When dismounting, again, if you linger with your weight in the stirrup, the saddle CAN slip some.
I have seen beginners riding in BMSSaddles mount and dismount perfectly the first time, and I have seen experienced riders who have never ridden anything without a tree dump the entire saddle upside down, especially when dismounting, so it can go either way.
The safest way that I have been taught to dismount is to swing the right leg over the cantle, kick your left foot out of the stirrup, and slide to the ground. This method prevents your foot from getting caught in the stirrup should the horse spook or move, and also prevents the saddle from shifting too much. I don’t have a choice; my legs are so short and my horse’s barrel so big that the stirrups don’t even clear her girth, and if I tried to dismount by leaving my left foot in the stirrup the entire way down the way the cowboy movies depict, my leg would be so high up in the air I would fall backwards with it still attached to the stirrup. Not good! So…If my big, physically impaired booty can dismount without tipping the saddle, I am sure smaller, more athletic people can as well. 
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